EliteFitness.com Bodybuilding ForumsMy question is why? As i understand it many if not all power lifters have a high body fat percentage yet they are all prime candidates for AS. Testosterone not only builds muscle but it helps burn abdominal fat from what i have read. High bf causes more testosterone to aromatize into estrogen. However if someone on steroids high body fat is taking a moderate dose of an AI this shouldn't be a problem at all.
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My question is why? As i understand it many if not all power lifters have a high body fat percentage yet they are all prime candidates for AS. Testosterone not only builds muscle but it helps burn abdominal fat from what i have read. High bf causes more testosterone to aromatize into estrogen. However if someone on cycle is taking a moderate dose of an AI this shouldn't be a problem at all. AS cause an increase in bad cholesterol, and fat people must have high cholesterol levels.
This is also laughable. They are genetically predisposed to low cholesterol levels. They have good cardiovascular health. I honestly can not think of any other possible reason why a fat dude shouldn't go on cycle. In fact if a fat guy and skinny guy were both on the same diet, fitness regiment, supplements, and every other factor was equal as well. Wouldn't the fat guy have greater gains due to the fact that his muscles are getting more energy because he has more fat to burn while he is sleeping?
I really have a hard time saying this because the truth is I love this site and the wealth of knowledge its given me and still gives, but some people are just haters. Yes I am sure there real reasons to second think starting gear for health reasons but the explanations given to me where coming from arrogant pricks. My opinion is do your homework and read because that's where you will learn but don't expect to get much when asking questions because most of the time I feel there reply's are more geared towards there ego then actually helping you.
Its just something I have felt and experienced. Wow, considering the audience your speaking of I would say you have more reading to do. I think all of us here at eroids have put the boot to ass when needed, lit up the flame thrower when some 23yr old jerkoff wants to run the tren train, but to say were haters I think couldn't be further from the truth Sure there are some comments made that are arrogant, hell I've made a couple that I regret, but the purpose and goal of this site is to provide helpful information on the SAFE administration of AAS and most of the info comes from either medical journals or the school of hard knocks,,, meaning we have learned from our own mistakes we made as dumb kids or even adults hot and horny to run something, anything we can get our hands on to gain some muscle.
I have personally never met anyone on this site, but you what? I travel alot, and I'll bet if I walked into a gym I could pick them out by name and style, they would be the guys coaching, helping, mentoring the younger guys on how to lift to meet there goals. If people are offended or putoff when they ask a simple question and get told your not ready for a run it's because if you can't take the time to read and educate yourself about a certain compound that you will be injecting deep into your body well then your just fucking lazy and are showing a lack of commitment.
Do I think heavy people can run gear sure Under certain circustances, how commited are they? What is there diet? Is there a thyroid problem? Have bloods been run? Should the person be on TRT?
Does his HPTA just need some help to get the test back up-a simple blood test and some time with an endo can fix this most likely with a script of clomid. How is the blood pressure? What kind of supps will be used to offset the negative effect of steroid usage?
There are a million reasons why really over weight people should not take steroids, the main one being is this person just being lazy? A calorie deficite burns fat 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Find me a guy at your gym, or on the street that will sit with you and spend hours working out a specific diet plan to meet your fitness goals??? Still think we are haters? Please keep your advice to yourself unless your going to back it up with medical knowledge or first hand experiance with before,and afters including cycle, compounds,diet,and final bloods after PCT.
Because without that its all just bullshit! Sorry man but shouldn't speak badly of people who lend there time to help others. I can understand how my post can get some people fired up being that there are so many people on this site that contribute there time to help others, and a lot of there time.
I am speaking from my experience and how I felt, for everyone that stuck there hand out to help there was someone who just put me down. I understand criticism has to truthful and not about sugar coating things but I wasn't getting criticism. The TRUTH is that there are people that swing there wealth of knowledge around like its there 15inch dick and god forbid you say something wrong they crucify you and call you a dumb ass.
I really hate having this conversation because it does so much injustice for all the great people here and I sincerely mean that but I have felt it myself and seen it countless times where the reply's are not from a place of trying to help but rather from there over blown egos. There is a lot I would like to say but I don't want to rile anyone up and disrespect good members of our eroids community but overall my point is that when replying to someone check your motives on why your doing it, is it to help out or to stroke you massive cock of knowledge.
Pretty harsh BS you got flying there. I can be fully a prick as anyone can tell you but i as well as the others bend over backwards to help unsatisfied lil farts. Don't bite the hand that feeds. Just like anyone researching. To help people u must have the mindset of a servant.
I have said and done some things here that I regret that were foolish, egotistical, irrelevant and downright stupid. And I think there are others here that could say the same thing. But to think someone is a "hater" is a big leap bro. I said that the people that do "pussy negs" are faggots and some gay guy labeled me as a "hater. It just doesn't even make any sense bro.
Most of us here I think are quite genuine and really do want to help and give good advice from our own experience. I'm not sure of what other motivations there are really. I've said many time before, commenting here is like a ministry opportunity. I feel like I'm finally in a good bf range with my last photos. Slow cuts and gains are way better for health reasons anyways.
I started lighting the candle at both ends shortly after and let myself go physically. I let my weight get in the high 's. Yeah no bull shit. Taco trucks pizza and a lot of cerveza.
Spent a lot of time partying in Mexico. Three years ago I gave up the booze and got back on track with cardio everyday, strength training, flipping tires, and a super clean all organic diet. I did however get a physical and had blood work done prior to make sure my body could handle it. My bp was and my cholesterol was low. My point is I didn't just jump in blind like an idiot. I trained hard and saw a doctor first. I respect the sauce and keep it at a level I can handle.
May as well leave this open Hows this for dedication I wrote up a huge piece on this page; then realized that it could be a troll AND this post was from so long ago.
Plus its information I really should not share either from my own experience. They tend to lose it quicker whilst on cycle due to increased activity just from training alone and diet combined. That is the magic answer; increasing metabolism and a training program will do the same thing that a cycle could do.
So it's a 2 answer question. Smartest answer being to wait until you dropped a bunch of that pizza pounds before looking for a miracle. You're in an awkward position as a source to take a position on this. I agree with you and have personally seen some higher BF guys really benefit from anabolics and diet.
And, the reasons for that belief are sound indeed. I can't argue with the logic. Knock your lights outs. More fat more aromatize enzyme more estrogen. More sides more problems. As far as moderate amount AI. More is not better it's more stress and damage to the body. Can you take roids?
Sure you can, but the. It would be less stressful on your body and health. I've also seen natural work quicker as far as dropping body fat. You also learn what works and what doesn't, training and diet wise for your body. When the day comes and you do add AAS you will have far better results and far less side effects. Two guys all the same both lbs. His scenario both on the same diet, fitness regiment, supplements, and every other factor was equal as well. Let's break it down. We all know that the more muscle you have the more calories you burn at rest.
He will get fatter. You should go look at the pic section and you will see guys who think like you.