NUOS PRIMOI'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a water tank with a small heat pump on top, they're ariston nuos primo 100l 1k. They take heat from the room but this will also help dehumidify. I'll dig up a link for one. I have both PV and thermal myself. Thermal isn't justifiable economically for all but the most intense users of priml water in my opinion.
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I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a water tank with a small heat pump on top, they're about 1k. They take heat from the room but this will also help dehumidify. I'll dig up a link for one. I have both PV and thermal myself. Thermal isn't justifiable economically for all but the most intense users of hot water in my opinion.
I'm leaning towards PV if the figures for installation can be agreed and they stack up. I'll need a bigger hot water cylinder though and the solar thermal included a L stainless steel one so just have to weigh them Both up over the next few weeks.
No, Thermodynamic is snake oil. One like this Https: I looked at this, so you buy a system that pulls heats out of the house, turns it into hot water and then pumps cold air into house if you want.
So if you live in hot climate you could pull the heat from the house to heat the water and then push cold air back in. In the meantime you are getting hot water Seems very dodgy in Ireland to be honest. I found the one company that seemed to know a few things about it but once I started digging it didn't make sense. They actually recommended PV to connect to it longer term as it is hard on electricity So you would have PV running to power the system to get hot water. It is very popular in Germany etc as they have very hot climate and use as air conditioning If you only ran the heat pump part in summer though this wouldn't be too much of a concern, you could just leave a window open.
As for "hard on electricity" this sounds like total nonsense, they use times less electricity than heating the water with an immersion heater, that's their whole reason for existing. Finally, they don't "pull heat out of the house" either. They concentrate heat from a room into the tank.
If the water is used, yes the room will be cooler than before. If it's not used, it will leak back into the room again and the room will actually end up hotter than without it due to the compressor's power consumption. Easy enough to calculate if it's going to be a problem in a particular room at a given rate of consumption of hot water. Installation of an integrated unit shouldn't be any more complex than a standard copper cylinder.
The only difference would be that power is wired to the heat pump unit instead of the immersion element. Use the Immersion, 3. So if you use the immersion on night rate for days that would cost 80 Euro's a year. Now , this is immersion water heating only. For us with Oil heating it makes 0 sense because most of the year the water is heated with oil with the central heating.
And the average life of a heat pump I've read on boards is 10 years? Are you having a laugh? That would barely wash the left middle side of my right testicle. We need at least 50 times that for our daily washing routine. You seem to represent an extreme lifestyle choice out here, but I do not want to subscribe to your system.
Furthermore kceire is installing a tank anyway so it's the marginal cost of the heatpump version Vs a normal tank you need to consider. For the all in one unit the heat pump is entirely indoors, it should last a lot more than 10 years.
Unkel I think yours is the extreme out there. You seem to take pride that you can pump litres of hot water into the drain quicker than you can plug in your Ioniq! First of all you mean kWh when you write kW. The immersion will then have to cut in again to maintain temperature during the day just to replace losses, even assuming no usage. Including losses the total is more likley to be closer to 7. Sorry I was giving a high level view of item.
Didn't realize you wanted full spec. As mentioned above my price was Can't see how you think it is quid based on a link in German? It is not as easy as sticking in immersion tank. How did you come up with that? You have to run ducting out of the system to the room you are pulling the heat from.
Also then to room you are pushing out cold air. Even if you do buy from Germany, who will maintain the unit? This is the problem with the original external heat pump.
Loads of Jonny come heating specialist installed them and then legged it, now home users left with system nobody can maintain or get parts You are correct it is nowhere near as hard on electricity as the immersion but the installation person did mention the one I looked at has a solar PV feed option.
So you use PV to power it. I was about to install it and had a chat with a guy on one of the forums here, he mentioned about Solar PV with divertor so I left that unit.
Why buy 2 units at over 3k per unit when I can buy one unit just a little bigger My moto is do it once and do it proper. If that means a few extra quid then I don't mind paying it. Too many half assed installations in Ireland and useless after 3 years because something breaks.
I would be concerned if any company comes out and can only do solar water. From what I can gather they need no certification to do solar water and that is why you have another load of Jonny Solar Specialist running around the country I wouldn't like to sit beside you in work Page 16 of Want to share your thoughts? Login here to discuss! List of all thanks.