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Test/Anadrol/Dbol Cycle Opinions
Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Jump to page: Results 1 to 15 of Dbol or Anadrol in combination with Test E cycle? Under the section for sample cycles in Llewellyn's Anabolics 10th edition I noticed there is a Anadrol and Test cycle, but it seems like I notice more of a mention of Dbol and Test cycles on the internet.
Is one preferable to the other? Sorry if it's a complete newb question, just trying to learn. Vision did a great review on the synergies of using both together. I can't post the link. For a first cycle, just test will give great results, let you see how it effects you, and give you time to research for safely adding other compounds. Post up your stats and goals, and you'll get some good guidance. If I'm violating any rule I'm not aware of, someone delete and let me know, please. Let me rephrase that, I.
I love the strength, size, well-being Anyway, please understand that the point of this article is NOT to destroy your body with whatever compounds you can find. Safe, effective doses are synergistic between dbol and drol.
Treated with respect and dosed safely, you'll see maximum long-term gains with minimal sides. I may catch a little hate for this one, but keep Adex or something similar on hand just in case sides become unbearable. I disagree with blindly throwing nolva in the cycle. Anyway, enjoy the article. The Great Oral Debate: Dianabol By Gavin Kane For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol.
The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.
It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, Anadrol was discontinued. Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts.
After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex. Dianabol methandrostenolone was first made in by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen.
Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties. Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.
So we come to the premise of this article, Anadrol vs. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of Anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get.
With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches. On the other hand, when I take Dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating.
It sounds like I should keep taking Dianabol and drop the Anadrol, right? I get massive male pattern baldness from Dianabol, which I do not experience from Anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from Anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains.
So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product. Anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. Dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as Anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?
The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with Anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with Dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.
My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. Dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle weeks and most of the aforementioned side-effects.
Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of mg Dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or mg Anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my Dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my Anadrol use to mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high doses of each but with none of the sides.
There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and deca - durabolin. I would run my Anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my Dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users.
I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of Anadrol.
I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the Anadrol and Dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex.
You will be able to control your water retention, liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways.
Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up. I find that AD50 is a bit harder on my liver and higher with water retention.
But I just finished a cycle I read about years ago. Two weeks AD50 and test. Then two weeks D-bol and deca. Ran that for two months.
Results of strength and size not bad,but mood swings thru the roof. AD50 is for me stronger than D-bol mg for mg.
But the feeling of good well with D-bol is much better than the shit feeling I get with AD I wouldn't recommend either without a strong anti-estro. Finally, the old staple of D-bol and deca for growth is forever carved in stone,aside order of test a la carte never hurts. Originally Posted by hightestfuel. Originally Posted by zionoir The meaning of life is not simply to exist to survive, but to move ahead, to go up, to achieve, to conquer Thanks for the responses.
I've been training for a year, but progress has been slow. Originally Posted by Apollo I run both orals together.
That is low for a young buck. If you have insurance, a smart guy like you can find and endo that can see why your numbers are low and get you feeling better. It could be environmental- weed, pain killers, poor diet, etc. Get yourself checked out. Might be something simple. Those numbers are TRT worthy, I think. Not terrible and you have shown you can get them better. The problem for you if you did a cycle is PCT.
My advise, take with a grain of salt. See an endo and make sure your diet is great you will HAVE to eat more to grow!